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The thread is no longer "active" it appears and since there is no longer an immediate need, I do see why it may have been deactivated.

However, I would think of all threads... this is the one that should stay open... just in case something happens when the PW moderator is not around and can't reactivate the message as people are in the actual time of crisis and need to find a place NOW... Not when the PW moderator gets back home.

I guess it served it's purpose for the day. I'm glad Puna residents stepped up to the plate to assist others who may be in need.

Whoa... nevermind... !

Punaweb has a special site now just for things related.

Wonderful... yes, I grumbled to soon.

Thanks alot Harry Kim and Chief Ranger. Pele made your day, dodn't she! Talk about security and public safety issue. Just tell the tourists no come, why don't you.

I drive up thru the Volcano area yesterday, Kau to Hilo. I see Pele violating the smokin ban. Great. I drive into the park but am told by the ranger at the gate to turn around, visits not allowed. The tourist van in front of me is told the same thing. The noxious cloud is visible overhead, a thousand feet up, heading like the picture show
The vog starts to descend and is on the ground by AliiAnela and all the way into Hilo The vog was in the Saddle as I drove through there early yesterday heading to Kona and I could see the vog in Kawaihae and Kailua. The only place without vog yesterday was along the Naalehu/Pahala coastline.

Which gbrings me to my prediction. The next big eruption we get at HVNP in a crater, mark my words. Kapu will be the buzzword. Only Rangers and family and friends allowed to go inside, take picture. Or maybe if you're a Hawaiian activitist or if you're in a hula halau throwin bottles into da crater. Public keep out. Thats just great you two

I can't wait to change presidents. maybe we'll get some sanity and common sense back among our leadership. Everybody is trying to out safety the next guy, especially among government employees, like our Mayor and Chief Ranger.

Horst: so Miguel, heard you went on vacation. how was it?

Miguel: it was 50-50. we went to Hawaii. We tried to stay at the Volcano House an see the volcano but they told us to go home, they wouldn't let us in. Funny, the guy at the gate had a mask on his neck, not around his face. But there was a good side; they gave us free room at a place called Aunty Sallys.

Horst: cool. tell all your friends in Spain.

I think Rob Tucker is a real gem for offering assistance to the evacuees. Too bad the County doesn't have a large public center in Kurtistown somewhere so people didn't have to go all the way into Hilo.

As for "no believe" going holoholo into the HVNP? I wouldn't want to risk inhaling that stuff and having it suffocate you to death. Stay home in Kona where you safe.

Keliipio,

ahem, there was no vog at HVNP gate, no vog in the park, the vog all came down further downhill, starting around AliiAnela, just above Fern Forest and going all the way downhill after that.

the point is I no need one Ranger or one Civil Defense tourist to tell me if get smoke in the air, I can see for myself. I no need one sign to tell me the 20 foot wave is dangerous, get out of the way. I no need to wait until 2 pm to go see the lava flow. I can park 2 miles away and walk in. Like they do now when the closer parking lots are full.

my main point is that our government employees, including TSA and Civil Defense and HVNP Rangers, have taken public safety to the next level, beyond common sense level. the evacuation to Aunty Sally's is the example. Anybody on da top of Halai Hill can see Aunty Sally is in the vog zone.
The point is that the wind changes, and you gotta ada[t tp ,ptjer matire. bit mp. we gptta waot to;; 2 p'clock.

no get me wrong. Mayor Kim is a really nice person. I just would not give him authority, thats all. I can count on him saying no. Now he got the Ranger doing it too. Mark my words, the next eruption in the park in a crater, we'll have to wait till 2 oclock, and also wait 2 weeks.

by then the eruption is ovah. but all the Rangers and their families and their friends will get to see.

I'm writing this so they know we're watching, and yakking.

Eh, no believe, theres nothing to see but a big puka with some smoke coming out of it. Relax and no worry. You not missing out on anything. I stopped going to view every darn lava flow for almost 20 years now. Pele likes her privacy. Plus its no fun when the wind shifts and then you start coughing and coughing and no can stop.