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18Jan

Source of panhandling bill questioned

Councilwoman Emily Naeole, who often stakes out a position in defense of the downtrodden, has suddenly introduced an anti-homeless ordinance that would ban panhandling anywhere in Hawaii County.

A similar ordinance is already in effect for downtown Hilo where it is largely unenforced, according to the Hawaii Tribune-Herald article by Jason Armstrong, which also reported that "the Pahoa Main Street organization" asked for the ordinance to help downtown businesses attract tourists. But whether the Main Street Pahoa Association endorses the effort was questioned by Rob Tucker, vice president of the Main Street Pahoa Association, who said the non-profit organization has neither called for nor endorsed the ordinance.

Naeole aide Tiffany Edwards Hunt said there may be a division in the MSPA that she's unaware of but two members told her that it wanted the panhandler ban.

Most surprising is that Councilwoman Naeole would be this hard-nosed toward the needy.


"The most common law that targets homeless people is some version of a panhandling law, whether it's aggressive panhandling or saying you can only panhandle in certain areas of a city,"

-- Michael Stoops, acting executive director of the national homeless coalition in 2005

I took the above quote from one of dozens of stories found with a quick Google search that document the struggles of advocates for the poor and homeless trying to stave off similar laws around the country.

Naeole herself often speaks of her experiences being poor, and even recently she couldn’t pay an unexpected bill for a newspaper ad she ran during the holiday season and took a friend's personal loan to avoid a possible ethics violation. It's not quite the same as panhandling, granted, but sometimes people do need help. No harm asking.

When asked about the anti-homeless nature of the proposal, which seems to run counter to Naeole's instincts, Hunt testily defended her boss, saying that whenever the Councilwoman responds to a community concern she gets flack from people like Tucker and me, and that she doesn't like to be panhandled either.

To me, a panhandler is just another person you meet in public to whom you have the option of saying no and moving on. Asking a question of another person is not, and should not, be a crime in a public place even if it’s “hey, can you give me money?” That’s not harassment.

Harassment is already illegal. And if a panhandler aggressively pursues, badgers, insults or otherwise tries to intimidate people to give them money on the street, then it's a crime. The key is enforcement. Until we have more patrol officers in Puna, enforcement is unlikely. And until we have more police officers, I'd rather they not be burdened with one more nuisance complaint like panhandling.

Anti-panhandling laws have become popular in U.S. cities in the past 15 years. Yet they are no solution to homelessness, poverty, drug addiction, or to any other reasons that panhandlers ply their trade. A panhandling ordinance masks the underlying problem, as though wishing and legislating will make it go away. It treats the symptom while ignoring the cause, and the consequence of driving panhandlers off the streets could be more home burglaries and thefts from cars.

Councilwoman Naeole would do better to continue concentrating on helping the poor and needy, one of her strengths, than promoting an unnecessary, unenforceable, potentially counterproductive panhandling ban. Making criminals out of the poor and destitute is not helping.

And what do you do with panhandlers when they're arrested, fine them?


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Reader Comments (7)

Politcians, like all of us, and maybe moreso, can be contradictory. Merle Lai, a councilwoman of many years was largely perceived as an advocate for the downtrodden. Yet, she developed the 1970-1980 period of signs that stood in storefront windows, declaring "no jobs here."

I never got to the bottom of her drive but she became somewhat popular with merchants of the day for her effort. I don't like panhandling any more than the next fellow but I believe I have the courage to say back off, when it becomes too annoying. Panhandlers persist only because people give.
January 18, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterhugh clark
Hunter wrote:
"A panhandling ordinance masks the underlying problem, as though wishing and legislating will make it go away."

Hugh Clark wrote:
"Panhandlers persist only because people give."


Lets face it, its tough out there.

Sometimes a extra buck can make a big difference in a day.

Our low wages subsidize the goods and services we use.
Full time workers at KTA for example who have two kids qualify for government assistance.

The cost of a legal smoke or a can of tuna fish has doubled in price in Pahoa Cash and Carry since 9/11.

The the poor certainly have a lot of available services in Hawaii. However, unless we address the unemployable and the causal factors I foresee strife and civil disobedience far more serious then a "clark off" will solve.


January 18, 2008 | Unregistered Commenter A Pan Handle
I have been approached several times here in Kona by people asking for money but as soon as I tell them that I would be willing to buy them a sandwich instead rather than give them cash, they seem to back off pretty quickly. A few other times, two folks actually asked me if I could buy them a plate lunch or sandwich and I went and got them what they wanted and they were appreciative and quickly walked away to find a place to eat the food. My rule is that I don't give money. Not so sure if the panhandling bill is the solution to the problem.
January 18, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKELIIPIO
I did inform Tiffany by voice message that Mainstreet Pahoa Association never discussed panhandling at any of it's board meetings. I wasn't complaining just wanted to let her know the facts. She didn't call back... and I wasn't interested in beating a minor point.

I personally don't know enough about the proposed bill to have a position on it - if my opinion mattered. I did immediately wonder though what the proposed penalty might be for panhandling. A fine? or jail time? or what?
Thanks, Keliipio, your approach is exactly what we do and we have had exactly the same experiences. We do avoid buying them plate lunches in polystyrene!
January 18, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjames weatherford
In three years of full-time residence in Puna and five years of frequent visits before that, I have never once been asked for money by a panhandler. Is my experience unique, or do others share my view that this is not a big time problem? My biggest concern in reference to this issue is that Councilwoman Naeole, towards whom my opinion has warmed considerably, may not have her priorities in order. Is panhandling something that needs her legislative efforts when we need more police protection in general, more parks, better health care, and village center commercial opportunities in Puna? I think not. The contradictory nature of this proposal, while real, is minor compared to the misdirection of energy and focus.
January 19, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJerry Carr
It seems to me Mr. Clarks reference to the "no jobs" campaign is a right on comparison to this proposal.
Since the law would be virtually unenforcable, it looks as if the intent is do discourage the influx of homeless citizens from O'ahu to the Big Island. Just a guess.
January 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterDon OReilly

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