Kilauea threat? Kim can't decide
Friday, September 7, 2007 at 09:58AM Mayor Harry Kim responded to the volcano concerns of Puna residents with condescension and confusion in a note recently made public by Councilwoman Emily Naeole's office.
Kim signed an undated memo in answer to Naeole aide Tiffany Edwards' request for advice on what to tell people with questions about the recent eruption of Kilauea Volcano. Edwards posted the memo (scroll down) today on the Puna Community Development discussion board. "Citizens are asking about what is being done to prepare for the likely event that Madame Pele encroaches on lower Puna," a CDP member asked Edwards, who referred the question to the mayor's office.
But Mayor Kim's memo is not clear about whether there is even a "potential threat" or not. Consider this part of the mayor's response:
"About a town meeting: The strategy on communication to the affected public follows a format used by County government that was established in the 1970s. This format is activated when a potential threat is identified by the warning source, in this case HVO. At this point and time, part one of the communication plan has been activated."
OK, we've got a "potential threat" identified by HVO. Part One of the communication plan is activated. Let's go.
"Part One - A media briefing was held on August 23. This briefing was ... to let the general public know that the County and HVO are carefully working as a team to monitor the present volcanic activity."
Ahhh, good to know that.
"It was also established how communication with the community will be done if a potential threat develops."
Alright, ... whoa, wait a minute. I thought we already identified the potential threat. You remember, the one that triggered this "communication plan." Now I'm confused.
"It is totally unknown at the present time what will happen with the present flow, but if it develops into a potential threat, the rest of the process of communication with the public will be executed. This includes all methods, including print media, radio, brochures, community meetings, work with community associations, etc."
So we learn that "if it develops into a potential threat," then apparently we'll find out something more. But did something change since the "potential threat" set off the communications plan on Aug. 23? That would be good news if it has, but I've seen nothing else to indicate that we've actually downgraded from a potential threat to, say, a potential potential threat.
So ask yourself, do we, or don't we, have a potential threat? If not, then why did the county frighten people by unleashing the communications plan? If we have a potential threat, then let's get the planning process out front and center. Let's talk about it. People want to know what contingencies the county has should Kilauea burp too hard and start spewing lava over key roads and subdivisions, cutting people off from life-sustaining services. They don't want double-talk spewing out of a 30-year-old plan.
Don't start out calling it a potential threat and then pat people on the head and say, in effect, "Don't worry, we're taking care of it, it's not such a potential threat after all." Let's advertise and open all the meetings and invite affected people into the loop.
"A town meeting for general purposes is good, but when Civil Defense conducts meetings regarding a potential threat, if one develops, they will be more site specific and there will be multiple meetings. For example, if meetings were needed to be held because Hwy 130 may be affected, community associations throughout the area will be asked to sponsor meetings to make it more manageable to get the word out to all affected persons."
Will that word be "screwed?"
Why the reticence to discuss these critical issues now? Think you'll get people too excited? They are already excited. It really seems the greater potential threat here perhaps is from the government bureaucracy sitting on its communication plan until too late. Is the mayor just getting tired? After all, he can't be everywhere doing every thing in the administration. Maybe he could hand off the important Civil Defense work to his extremely capable Civil Defense Director, Troy Kindred.

Reader Comments (19)
Reminds me of Donald Rumsfelds -" There are knowns, and there are unknowns , and there are unknown knowns , and there are known unknowns " - blah blah blah.
Worst case scenario, if the flow keeps being fed by the D fisher and the lava keeps flowing down the east rift in an northeast direction towards the ocean. People, we will be in big troubles, the flow will most likely cross the 130 highway at the scenic turn out. From there it is a straight run thru Lava Tree and the Geothermal plant and anything else in its way to the ocean. I take it back, this is not the worst case scenario, this is only one of many.
By taking the lets sit back and see what is going to happen may be the Mayor’s approach, and he may very well get lucky and the flow will stop. Then he can say, “see I told you not to worry” but lets say that he is wrong, what then? Remember all of our houses are built on one lava flow or another.
The Lack
P.S. This post is potentially a potential warning of the potential threat.
I wouldn't hold my breath for the Bureaucracy, based on the blogs (Flossie for example) the big B can't get anything right.
Aloha, I will never count on the County, State, or the Fed’s to do anything. They only react to a past situation and seems like they have be prodded into moving before one.
I live in Hawaiian Beaches and that puts me in lava zone # 2. I built here a little over two years ago with full knowledge of the possible destruction Madame Pele could dish out. I have had a plan on what I would from day one, but not all are in my position. If it became eminent that my home was going to be destroyed by the lava flow, I have the means to get a large crew here and all but dissemble the house. I will try and save what I can for my next home.
Unfortunately others don’t have these means and will all but loose everything. My prodding of the Mayor and others is to try and put a plan together for them. [the unfortunate folks]
Example:
How about having volunteers crews standing by to help and save what they can for these good people?
How about having some trucking ready for the transport of these goods and a place to store them?
How about having the Mayor and the Council putting together some funds to fund these volunteers for things like food, demolition tools, protective clothing and such?
How about just putting a plan together to do something?
I for one will be the first to volunteer and get on a list. I may not be able to do the physical labor as before , but I can sure instruct others on how to demolish and save what is good for reuse.
The Lack
What do we know about current plans of Civil Defense?
The Mayor's dismissal of the need for a community meeting seemed a bit abrupt.
It is mostly certainly within the realm of need for community members to be informed on what plans (do or do not) exist.
The director of Civil Defense could meet with a few folks to discuss what preparation have (or have not) been made.
While my family would not likely sit and wait for someone else to take care of us, it would be to everyone's benefit and safety if everyone knew what was going to be happening in the event of lava inundation, hurricane, or whatever. For example, if somebody is trying to move their household goods with a large vehicle, will they be impeding the movement of emergency vehicles?
Having been trained as an Red Cross disaster volunteer, I know that plans are in place for evacuation routes and shelters, emergency medical care, etc.
We need to know about these plans.
Also, it would be very, very informative to know how the evacuation of Kalapana was carried off.
I see plenty criticism here (and have been known to criticize local and state officials myself) but I don't see any of the correspondents identified above at this training.
Lackey, you say above you would be the first to volunteer and get on a list for organizing a plan, having volunteer crews, etc. but if you are attending this training, would you please introduce yourself to me this coming Saturday? Wankine, Goyo, Greg???
Hunter posted notice of the first of these meetings on his blog which you all apparently read avidly. Similar trainings are already planned for this year in Volcano and Waikoloa, and the County Dept. of R&D, which is the administrative organizer of these trainings, has invited the public to call its office if other neighborhoods want the training.
Those attending the trainings are urged to form neighborhood teams. The biggest contingent in the current Pahoa training sessions is the eNet group from Paradise Park. But there are people from Kalapana, Kapoho, the Hawaiian charter school at Pohoiki, Orchidland, Fern Forest, and Nanawale.
I must say I've been quite impressed with the training. This past Saturday we learned and practiced triage and some basic first aid in the morning. In the afternoon we learned how to lift as much as 20,000 pounds of material off trapped victims, with teams of volunteers (could be as few people as 3 or 4) using 2X4s, 4X4s and levers. The first Saturday we learned about assessing, organizing and communicating in times of disaster when outside help is stretched beyond capacity or our areas are cut off from outside help. I've received numerous bits of advice that I can now take back to the Nanawale board to initiate planning in our neighborhood.
I highly recommend this training to every concerned, responsible resident of this island.
Aloha and malama pono, Frankie
1. Houses in the way of lava. (possibly dozens?)
2. people being cut off from Hilo.(possibly thousands?)
Interesting times we live in.
Good point you make about the increase in population.
That was '83?
My dreamtime at Kalapana was (after my discharge from the military) '74 - '75. Left just before the '75 earthquake, returned briefly in '80, and then it was gone...
We would like to hope that none of us will be "involved with anything other than that," but that would be denial.
...neighbors are not simply people who live next to you.
In the Philippines, small bamboo houses are made to be portable / mobile. That's pretty clever and charming. A recent HTH article discussed legislation Ms. Naeole is putting forth for local building materials and designs -- Maui already has similar legislation. Put local materials and designs together with emergency mobility and you've got something!
What we absolutely DO NOT want is the type of 'mobile homes' so common on the mainland (especially the South and MidWest). They are energy hogs, death traps, and an environmental disaster once unusable.
Do you have a bonafide estimate that $1million will "scrape" and keep "available" Beach Road and RR Avenue?
Is that a one time pass? or ongoing upkeep after rainstorms and increased traffic? Will ATV's be prohibited on RR? Will 4WD be kept out of RR?
Any improvements to Beach Road, especially, will bring more traffic (as it has done from Hawaiian Beaches through Waa Waa in the last year since that stretch was made passable.)
A temporary fix to a permanent problem is not a solution(and the risk of lava inundation in Puna IS permanent, or darned near).
Anyway I really miss those beaches and especially Queen's Bath. I wish I'd spent more time there while it was possible. Enjoy yours to the fullest.
L