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10Mar

More on CIA photo blackout at UH-Hilo

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A CIA recruiter speaks to a student at Georgia Tech University.
The Honolulu Star-Bulletin's Big Island reporter, Rod Thompson, writes about Thursday's CIA lecture at UH-Hilo in today's edition of the newspaper. Thompson talked to university vice chancellor Keith Miser and university law professor John Van Dyke in an interesting take on the issue which leaves me with several observations and questions:

 Miser said taking photos of individuals on campus has been banned on other occasions but he gives no examples. Could he offer any?

And Thompson seems to allow Van Dyke to skirt the issue, which is not whether the recruiter has a right to visit the campus. No one has questioned that. But Van Dyke suggested that, "as a practical matter, the CIA probably has the power to insist on what it wants," citing a Supreme Court decision that allows military recruiters on university campuses.

 Any attempt by the University of Hawaii to impose conditions on CIA recruiters could create the risk of a similar loss of funds," Van Dyke said.

That's quite a leap of logic for the law professor to make. Maintaining the freedom to report what happens on the campus is not imposing a "condition" on the recruiter. In fact it's the other way around. The recruiter was imposing a condition on the university, which in this case university officials were overly eager to accommodate.

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CIA recruiter Beth Barnes speaks to a student at the University of Texas
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A CIA recruiter speaks with students at Longwood University.
Finally, Miser said it is the CIA's "practice" to ban photographs of its employees.  But here (above) is a photo with a CNN story that clearly identifies a CIA recruiter at a job fair. Here's another one (left) taken at a Longwood University job fair. And here's another CIA recruiter, Beth Barnes (right), speaking to a student at a University of Texas job fair.

So I'm left wondering, what "practice," exactly, was Miser was talking about? 

 


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Reader Comments (11)

Interesting that the 'Trib editors don't appear to be backing up William Ing's protest at not being allowed to photograph the public briefing at UH-Hilo by the CIA recruiter. Who did you say owns that rag?
March 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterAnson Chong
John Van Dyke sounds like he is ready for retirement. I don't see anything wrong with taking pictures of recruiters. A camera phone would have probably gone unnoticed. Does Albertini have one?
March 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterMalama pono
I really doubt that the CIA sends deep undercover agents to recruit at college campuses, even out of the way colleges on remote islands. So what's the big deal about pictures? Somebody on the UHH staff or one of the visitors must have decided that they needed more drama and self-importance, so we get the photog thrown out. Next we get the vice chancellor and a law professor covering for whoever started it all and sounding not at all convincing on any level. There are press freedom issues here to be sure, but it sounds like somebody needed to feel like a real spy for a moment.
March 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterWankine
Goody, goody! Another circus is in town. Now the college has Bozos galore, too. Watch out, County Council. You have competition now. Next thing you know, they'll be opening a Clown SuperCenter to drive you out of business.
March 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRex
Off topic (sorry):

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2007/Mar-10-Sat-2007/opinion/

Sad example of a Stephens Media editorial. No wonder they suck.
March 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterRodion

Anson,
I agree, sounds like William Ing may be left out to dry.
Of all people, this man has the most unimposing presence and uses total professional courtesy with a camera.
If I'd been there with my scruff and sticking my beat-up Nikon in people's faces, well, that would need discussing. But that's not the way Will Ing works.

You said it, Wankine, "somebody needed to feel like a real spy for a moment."

Interesting call, Rex.
...academia and local politics (from my own experience working in both) have some common qualities
... a storm-in-a-teacup drama is always astir, piddling power is sought for its own sake, ethics is something talked about for the public record and routinely ignored as a matter of convenience, honesty is a bothersome inconvenience, and self-promotion is everything.

March 10, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJames Weatherford
Be courteous. A concept Avery and Albertini can't grasp apparently. To provide a guest the accomadations they requested. This was a UH professor trying to deliver on the conditions UH promised their guest. The reality is some small time activists wanted the CIA to be treated to a hostile environment. Guys the CIA and the DOD deal with real hostility every day. These guys created a tempest in a teapot for their own reasons not the public good. Mr Ing makes his living by taking pictures of these tempests. Every once in a while a photographers becomes part of a story I believe he just didn't see the sign, Mr Ing is a courteous professional. Both Dr. Stahl and Mr. Ing are gentlemen and this will be worked out.
March 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBrian Jordan
Brian, who allegedly wants a seat in the state legislature, seems oblivious to state laws, such as Act 45 that spells out how rules and regulations are adopted in Hawaii.

None appear to have been in effect here. The UHH officials apparently were making up their own rules as they went along. Totally illegal in this 3rd Circuit.
March 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterHugh Clark
Kim Here.

James...We are in agreement once again. This has become a bit of a habit. Life is so much nicer when we can be ourselves with out misunderstanding of Political misconseptions getting in the way! Everyone has them, but we need to get past them. We seem to be doing some of that right here! Wow!
March 11, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBrian Jordan
Stirring the pot a bit more <a href="http://kalapanapundit.blogspot.com/2007/03/cia-outing-at-university-of-hawaii-hilo.html">here<a/>. Joe Dorsey is a codename? Whatever.
March 16, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDoug
Thanks for the link, Doug. It seems for some "journalists" presenting both sides of an issue is presenting one side too many.

March 21, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterGrant Jones

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